Well that all changes today as The Geek Pub’s X-Carve get’s an upgrade from the 24V DC spindle that was included in the original shipment, to the DeWalt 611 router. My X-Carve just went from neat to awesome!
The DeWalt DW611 Router as an X-Carve Spindle
The DeWalt 611 makes a fantastic spindle for the X-Carve, as compared to the original 24V DC spindle that was included. The original 24v spindle was extremely underpowered and had a hard time even cutting MDF and hardwood. Aluminum was basically out of the question, as you’d have to cut slow slowly and make so many passes that it just became an effort in futility.
The DeWalt DWP611 is a 110v/220v handheld router that your simply remove from its base and insert it into the X-Carve as a spindle. You will need a DeWalt 611 spindle mount from Inventables to mount it, as the the DWP611 is a much larger unit and will not fit in the 24V spindle’s mount.
The DeWalt 611 is a 1.25HP 110v 7A machine, which equates to about 770 watts. In comparison the 24DC spindle at 180 watts! This is truly a massive upgrade. In fact, Inventables not ships the DWP611 as their standard spindle on all X-Carves due to the feedback from owners like us!
Another fantastic upgrade that comes with the DeWalt 611 is that is has LED lights on the bottom that directly light the surface of your material. This makes it very easy to see what is happening with your materials and the bit (remember to wear safety glasses). This was an unexpected plus I found out after the upgrade! The only downgrade I have found is that you will lose your automatic spindle on/off control. You’ll have to manually turn the router on or off with each operation. And let me tell you, with all the other awesome benefits, this won’t even matter in the bigger picture.
Upgrading the X-Carve to the DeWalt 611
Upgrading the X-Carve to the DeWalt 611 is breeze and only takes about 10 minutes to accomplish. In fact, it took me more time to read the directions than to actually do the upgrade.
On the back of the Z-Axis carriage assembly the 24V DC motor connects to the wiring block for power. Loosen those screws and remove the two wires. Tighten the terminals back down as they will no longer be used. Don’t bother to remove the 24v spindle from its mount. There is a plastic cap on the top of the motor. Just pop that cap off, behind it are two screws holding the mount to the ACME rod. Don’t remove them yet.
Remove the two eccentric nuts holding the V-Wheels on the right side of the Z-Axis carriage (the two actually connect to the spindle mount). Now remove the two cap head screws that hold the mount to the ACME rod. You can now remove the mount. Finally, remove the other two V-Wheels.
That’s all there is to it. To install the DeWalt 611 spindle mount, just reverse the process with the DWP611 mount and you’re back in business.
How to Secure the Power Cord on the DWP611
Cable management can be a little tricky on with the DeWalt DWP611 because the power cord is not going to fit into the drag chain. The only way to accomplish that would be to remove every single link on the chain and assemble it around the 611’s power cord as the 110v plug on the end will not fit through the assembled drag chain. Doing that’s is probably a bad idea anyway, because there are stories of interference on the step motor controllers when they 110v source shares the same conduit.
To remedy this problem, I used some velcro wire-wrap and simply wrapped the 611’s power cord around the drag chain ever four to five inches. That seems to work out fine.
A Few Upgrading Tips
The screws that came with my 611 mount were about 1/8″ too short. I remedied this by using a clamp to squeeze the mount closed before inserting the screws.
The DWP611 comes factory with a 1/4″ collet. This is likely too large for most CNC needs and most certainly will not work with any of your existing bits. You can either buy a 3rd party 1/8″ collet replacement, or you can do what I did and just buy a 1/4″ to 1/8″ bushing reducer (AMANA RB-102).
The DeWalt 611 will need to hang out of the bottom of the mount by at least one quarter of an inch! If you don’t do this then you won’t be able to press the spindle lock button. This means you won’t be able to loosen or tighten the collet to change bits!
If you upgrade your X-Carve leave me some comments below to let me know how it went!
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I found the bushing reducer I purchased doesn’t do a good job grabbing the bit. I had the bit fall out twice! Luckily, the bit never broke. Finally I cranked the collet as tight as I could (applying a lot of pressure) and it finally worked as expected.
Here’s the bushing reducer I purchased: http://amzn.com/B0015YL1WQ
Nevertheless, I’m glad I did the upgrade.
Yeah, it looks like with that one, the force has to be applied to a specific place. The one I bought can have the force applied anywhere along its length. Congrats on the upgrade!
This is awesome. I so want one of these X-Carves but I just can’t begin to afford one. I’m sure the DWP611 makes a good spindle though. I have one I use as my day to day go to router and it works really good.
Keep doing what you’re doing! I love your videos!
Thanks for being a fan of my stuff! The good news is, it only takes 5 seconds to pull the 611 out of the X-Carve and use it as a handheld router!
Hi Mike,
Are you sure that the Dewalt 611 is capable of working in 220v? I couldn’t find any mention of that in Dewalt’s site.
The label on the router says 120v.
Inventables site recommends using another router:
https://inventables.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/2048678-will-x-carve-work-with-both-110v-and-220v-
I just happened to have it and wonder if it would work.
It says so right in the manual: http://servicenet.dewalt.com/documents/English/Instruction%20Manual/N336740,DWP611.pdf?_ga=1.28201844.91560233.1472135542
I also want to know as I want to get it from the states.
It states it’s 120V AND there is a question about it in the questions/answers section.
Now the link that Mike shared does specify that it works on both but as you said, on Inventables, there are 2 models.
And i doubt that the one you buy from the USA will work on 240, they are obviously 2 separate products with a single manual (the one shared).
Can you please confirm or shed some light? Thanks!
I have that reducer from 1/4″ to 1/8″ but the bit is gets loose. Could you link me to collet that will suite the DEwalt 611
Thank you
I am looking to make this upgrade. The people I brought my machine from brought 25 different collet adapters fpr just about every size bit. I hope to make the upgrade in the next few weeks. Thanks for your directions and I will post my results after the upgrade.
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